Skyrim talk:The Bannered Mare

opening the shop

I've run into a problem where War-Bear won't open the shop. I thought it might be because he was glitched or dead, but even after I spawned him at me and he went into the shop it wouldn't open. I could unlock it with the console (or pick the lock), go in, talk to him and trade just fine, but the door would lock again after I left.— Unsigned comment by 71.171.18.178 (talk) at 19:54 on 15 January 2012

Yeah, this is glitch which affects a number of merchants. In my case, usually waiting one hour and then moving up to the shop and then moving away from the shop works most of the time. It will probably be fixed eventually.RIM 20:14, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

This is confusing, and probably on the wrong Talk.
--DayDreamer 01:23, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

incorrect notes on rentable bed

If you sell firewood to Hulda, all low value items in the inn and Hulda's bed become free to take or use, although you will still need to pay for the rentable bed.

This is not correct. I have save games where I sell firewood to Hulda the very first time I enter the Inn, and the (rentable) upstairs rear bed does not require payment. PC 1.5 no mods.
--DayDreamer 01:17, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

You need only pay for the rented bed once, as it does not revert to being owned once used.

This is not correct. The bed is good for 24 hours, after which it becomes "(owned)". You can sleep in it multiple times.
--DayDreamer 01:20, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

A reword might be in order although the free rentable bed is a bug. Are you saying the rentable bed is free to use after selling her firewood but not paying the 10 gold? If it becomes owned again then its a bug in all of my games (I wrote that part). The Silencer has spoken^Talk 01:23, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

I have saved games before and after I first entered the building, and again the next day. I'll test thoroughly, but it will take awhile. (I threw away all previous saves after restarting with 1.5, since I'd run into so many bugs!)
--DayDreamer 01:51, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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• Middas, 5:46 PM, 20th Last Seed
  • all beds owned

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1. Middas, 5:50 PM, 20th Last Seed
   • rent room
2. Middas, 6:11 PM, 20th Last Seed
   1. walk room (2nd level back)
   2. sleep 1 hour
3. Middas, 7:12 PM, 20th Last Seed
   • still good
4. Turdas, 7:13 AM, 21st Last Seed
   • still good
5. Turdas, 1:14 PM, 21st Last Seed
   • still good
6. Turdas, 5:15 PM, 21st Last Seed
   • still good
7. Turdas, 6:16 PM, 21st Last Seed
   • you cannot sleep in an owned bed

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1. Middas, 6:06 PM, 20th Last Seed
   • all dialog
   • sold 3 firewood, did not pay rent
   • 1st level back owned
   • 2nd level back not owned
   • 2nd level side E not owned
   • 2nd level side N owned

I stand by my corrections.
--DayDreamer 02:40, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Bed bugs again

The Silencer (talk · contribs · email) just removed (saadia's is a different bed, no sleeping doesn't mean no bed ownership) the ACCURATE description of the fix by USKP 1.2.4.

• No, Saadia didn't have a bed anywhere. Now she does.
• Mikael was going to the wrong bed. Now he goes to the previously empty bed we thought was Hulda's (has a spare lute and drum), and Saadia goes to the bed in the room with her encounter markers.
• Hulda has no bed, and no sleep package.

This particularly peeves me because I'm the editor who wrote that note in the first place. So, I know whereof I speak.
--DayDreamer (talk) 04:47, 22 November 2012 (GMT)

The USP is doing far more than it's original concept and assuming far more is wrong with the game than there is. There is no evidence that Mikael was supposed to have this room beyond the existence of the instruments, when raising Hulda's disposition allows this bed for free which suggests ownership of the bed (I have no PC so cannot verify this). What made the USP makers choose to give this bed to Mikael and not just give the bed packages to Hulda. If we are claiming ownership of content, then don't plagiarize, I wrote that note in the article. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 08:40, 22 November 2012 (GMT)

Doorknob

Why does the right handle on the front door disappear every time I go in? No mods installed, have Dawnguard, Dragonborn, and Hearthfire installed but turned off. KaidaThyme (talk) 23:49, 29 September 2015 (UTC)