Skyrim talk:Salmon Roe

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Alchemical Effects[edit]

The four effects of Salmon Roe are: Restore Stamina, Waterbreathing, Fortify Magicka, and Regenerate Magicka. A simple Salmon Roe + Salt Pile + Histcarp potion will reveal all the effects.Garland (talk) 19:21, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

Salmon in fishery[edit]

Can't get salmon roe from Salmon in the fishery either. Can anyone confirm? If so might be worth adding to the notes here, as although technically a lake I think many will assume they should be able to harvest roe here. Threepwood87 (talk) 12:05, 14 September 2012 (GMT)

You need to kill the salmon in the fishery so they will yield meat and roe. Either stab them or, for those that are always too far that you won't be able to use the weapon, use ranged magic attacks. Or even better: You are Dragonborn!! Just shout them dead. Shouting will also kill dartwings and other fish, possibly making them easier to collect. 192.131.85.207 08:58, 4 December 2012 (GMT)Cepsita

obatain[edit]

There a huge bother to get. Anyone have N efficient way to get them — Unsigned comment by 68.238.152.79 (talk) at 07:05 on 15 September 2012 (GMT)

Catch just one jumping salmon to get a sample. Get the house in Hjaalmarch, and build the fishery. Next, place some Roe on the fishery hatch. That will make about 6 Salmons to spawn after 24-36 hours? Next, kill the salmon by stabbing or shouting at them. When you pick the corpse, it yields Salmon Roe and Salmon Meat. The Salmons will respawn after 36-48 hours, if I've observed correctly. 192.131.85.207 09:02, 4 December 2012 (GMT) Cepsita
I found that in the waterfalls near Whiterun that if you are running upstream in the falls you can periodically jump and stay roughly in place, then you can maneuver to where a salmon is jumping and spam the 'E' button until you collect it. Somewhat annoying, but you can get around 15 Roe there in a few minutes worth of work. I had no luck with the shouts, I didn't try magic. This way since you're collecting jumping salmon you don't have to worry about missing corpses as they float downstream. 174.21.94.154 19:05, 12 September 2013 (GMT)

Good for Alchemy leveling/money[edit]

I'd like to add that the Waterbreathing effect on Salmon Roe is incredibly good for leveling Alchemy and/or making money. At level 15-20 Alchemy skill I made a potion that was worth a good 1200 gold, around double the money a Fortify Health potion using a Giant's Toe is worth.--Barfightbob (talk) 00:24, 15 September 2012 (GMT)

The values that can be seen in the CK are:
  • Restore Stamina - Magnitude 2, Duration 0
  • Waterbreathing - Magnitude 0, Duration 60
  • Fortify Magicka - Magnitude 50, Duration 5
  • Regenerate Magicka - Magnitude 5, Duration 300
--Alfwyn (talk) 16:24, 31 October 2012 (GMT)
  • Restore Stamina - Magnitude 2, Duration 0, Cost 1
  • Waterbreathing - Magnitude 0, Duration 60, Cost 215
  • Fortify Magicka - Magnitude 50, Duration 5, Cost 10
  • Regenerate Magicka - Magnitude 5, Duration 300, Cost 24
The Base cost of the Waterbreathing effect is 215, which is much higher then the base cost of 13 of other Waterbreathing Ingredients. The Base Duration is 60 seconds, compared to 5 seconds for other Waterbreathing ingredients. The Base Magnitude of Fortify Magicka is 50, compared to Base Magnitude of 4 in other Fortify Magicka Ingredients. The Base duration is 5 seconds, compared to 60 seconds for other Fortify Magicka ingredients. One can argue that this is due to a simple data entry transposition error. Or one can argue that this was an intentional design choice. I, for one, am leaning towards intentional design choice. A very clever one at that. Salmon Roe is quite challenging and time consuming to collect. Abacus707 (talk) 20:49, 2 January 2013 (GMT)
There are a massive number of salmon within shouting distance from the shore north of Dawnstar. Fast travel to Dawnstar enter the bay collect the salmon there and then start swimming for Winterhold. Should be able to find dozens of salmon that way.216.189.197.26

Killing Salmon[edit]

Has anyone else been able to verify that salmon can be 'killed' on Xbox 360? I've tried shouting, ranged spells, area-of-effect spells, arrows, whatever. I've yet to see a salmon "die" - the only way I've been able to get Salmon Roe is by catching them in mid-air. Is this just an Xbox thing? Or am I doing something wrong? --Acaveman (talk) 20:28, 3 January 2013 (GMT)

No, you're correct. It's the same way for me, can only catch them but not kill them. I'll update the article accordingly. — ABCface 20:41, 3 January 2013 (GMT)
use flames on the ones jumping the streams between riverwood and whiterun — Unsigned comment by 213.89.7.127 (talk) at 02:06 on 7 January 2013
I have found no problems in harvesting Salmon Roe using this manner on an Xbox 360. I note, though, that I would interpret your question to mean that you're trying to shout/spell the ones jumping up the falls -- those are not actual salmon, like the ones floating in the still and moving bodies of water - they appear to be a repeating animation as compared to a static creature - in that the same one is always repeatedly jumping in the same location. When I did a shout from the banks of river by Riverwood, several dead fish floated to the surface, from which I obtained several roe. The same occurred in the fish hatchery, shouting from the edge of the shore caught all the fish, slaughterfish and salmon and other fish types too, making it much simpler to harvest them - and from the dead salmon I obtained several roe. I do not bother trying to hit the ones jumping - jumpers always give roe and do not seem to be actual fish. --184.57.62.204 00:45, 17 January 2013 (GMT)
You can definitely kill salmon jumping up falls with fire. The bodies can usually be found downstream, floating, or, sometimes, washed up near the shoreline with roe attached to the corpse. — Unsigned comment by 24.245.96.105 (talk) at 05:56 on 18 January 2013
I have to resurrect this discussion because, at least on the PC in v1.9, I can't kill normal swimmers regardless of the method I try. I can't hit them, burn them, or shout them to death...they just keep on swimming like I'd done nothing. Jumpers are a little less clear, as it seemed after burning them with Flames, they stopped jumping, but perhaps that was just random timing. I didn't stay there for all that long. The only reliable way of getting roe that I've found so far is to catch the jumpers. Robin Hood  (talk) 07:03, 5 April 2013 (GMT)

() I tested this back when the debate first started, due to a glitch you CANNOT catch normal salmon at all until you've caught a jumper. Once a jumper has been harvested for roe the normal salmon can be caught normally. Lord Eydvar Talk|Contribs 07:07, 5 April 2013 (GMT)

I'm pretty sure that's the order I did it in, but I'll double-check tomorrow. Robin Hood  (talk) 08:24, 5 April 2013 (GMT)
Hmmm...shouting and striking with a weapon are working today, but they didn't yesterday. Spells don't work at all for me. I'm going to add a bug note with your observations to the page with a VN on it in hopes that it'll be more noticeable and someone can do some good solid testing. I hate when things seem to work randomly. Robin Hood  (talk) 22:52, 5 April 2013 (GMT)

I've had similar problems but I've noticed the following:

- You don't seem to be able to kill the salmon that are in short streams between/near waterfalls. Arrows just bounce off the water and spells that normally work just pass harmlessly through them.

- You DO, however, seem to be able to kill the ones in your hatchery at Windstad Manor, the lake near Solitude, and the lake near Riften, as well as the fishery inside Riften itself.

As near as I can tell, it seems to have something to do with whether or not the water is actually FLOWING or just stationary. This is just a theory, however, so if anybody can confirm/refute it let me know.

My preferred method involves donning Ahzidal's Waterwalking Boots, and enough enchanted gear to make all destruction spells free (i.e. they have an aggregate mana discount of 100% or more). Charge up the right hand with 'Ice Storm', then the left, and fire them directly down into the water alternating (fire left while charging right, then fire right while charging left). The large area of the ice storm and the rapid fire of alternating left-right allows it to kill most fish if you launch them in an arc in front of you and downward at varying angles.

Using this method, you don't even have to go underwater to retrieve them - they float right up to you. Each salmon will yield 1 roe, but ONLY if they're killed, not if you just swim up and catch them. I've been able to cultivate approximately 143 roe between Windstad, Lake Riften, the Riften Fishery, and Lake Solitude.

Hopefully this works for you guys. I have no idea why you can't kill the salmon in streams, but their location seems to be directly correlated to their killability.

Bamboonga 20:54, 3 February 2014 (GMT)

That's some good research. Thanks for that! With that info, I'll have a look in the Creation Kit when I get the chance and see if there's any kind of pattern to what can be killed and when. Robin Hood  (talk) 06:01, 4 February 2014 (GMT)
The poster above is 100% correct. You can only kill salmon for roe in certain locations using shouts specifically. In all other streams, and lakes even, they either cant be killed with arrows, swords or shouts even, but only by catching as they jump out of the water. An annoying and time consuming method to be sure. For an example, you can easily farm salmon near the East empire docks using Fos ro dah. But try that exact same thing near say, the shallow streams near the bridge at Honningbrew Meadery, and nothing will work. Not arrows, not shouts. Ive tried to shout salmon to death standing literally right them over to no effect. Nor can they be killed with arrows like Ive seem some articles imply. The arrows simply bounce off the water. Clearly those streams are coded differently than the cells that contain lake Riften, and solitude.
To summarize
-Salmon cant be arrowed magiced or shouted to death to cough up roe, anywhere but Riften and Solitude
-Salmon(roe) can only be snatched out of the air in streams
-Salmon in other lakes, shallow streams etc, do not seem killable by any method, in order to obtain roe
-Hearthfire kitchens and hatcheries are a reliable but slow and limited resource.
-What do you need to do then to quickly farm roe? Animal allegiance also works but its far faster to bee-line Fos Ro Dah Rank 2 in the early game.
Fos ro dah Rank 2+ is more than sufficient
Where: East empire docks and surrounding areas. Pick up 30-40+ in a single pass. 2 or 3 clears of Solitude alone and you can 100 Alchemy with ease. Any other method is simply too slow. — Unsigned comment by 174.4.7.60 (talk) at 10:02 on 14 July 2015‎
I've killed salmon for roe near Honningbrew. The issue there (and a lot of other places, like Ivarstead) is that the fish get swept downriver very quickly, and you'll often miss them. They may even be falling through the terrain or otherwise getting removed before you get the chance to see them. I've succeeded in finding the dead fish in any place where they jump, but some are definitely much harder than others. Robin Hood  (talk) 15:37, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

() Just as a follow-up, for anyone who was interested, I happened to have reason to look into this again recently, and I now mostly understand the mechanics of it. Which salmon can be killed for roe depends on how the game is spawning the salmon. Apart from waterfalls, the only salmon that can be killed for roe are those marked as "pond" salmon. What constitutes a "pond", however, can be a bit liberal. As noted by the IP address a couple of posts above, the bay area near the bottom of the stairs at the EEC docks is considered a pond for the purposes of the game, as are many other shallow areas.

Also, in order to get roe out of them, the salmon must be killed, not caught. Like what constitutes a pond, what constitutes a kill can also be a bit liberal. Based solely on the game mechanics, it looks like any hit or spell effect should kill a pond salmon, even if it's a totally benign spell effect like Harmony, or a shout like Animal Allegiance. My recent testing produced different results than previous testing has, however, and the benign effects did nothing to the salmon, though they successfully killed the birds flying above me. It's possible that there's something else coming into play here, like a perk effect or passive bonus, so YMMV! It's also possible that there's been a low-level change in the game mechanics over the last few years and those effects simply don't work underwater anymore. If anyone figures this part out, I'd be interested to hear about it.

In any event, hitting the fish physically or with hostile effects like Fire Breath still produced the salmon roe version of the corpses every time. If you hit a salmon with one of these and it refuses to die, then it's not one of the so-called "pond" salmon, and it will never produce roe. Robin Hood  (talk) 20:40, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

extremely valuable potion[edit]

I've found that the mots valuable potion I can make using salmon roe uses salmon roe+histcarp+jazbay grapes. At around level 20 in alchemy, I was producing potions using this recipe with around 1300 value. Anybody know of any better recipes? 107.201.180.90 00:11, 6 July 2013 (GMT)

Salmon Roe, Histcarp, and Salt Pile. At Alchemy level 100, the Potion of Waterbreathing is valued at 10,746 gold. It has a Waterbreathing effect of 1800 seconds (30 MINUTES). With Salmon Roe, Nordic Barnacle, and Garlic, the value is 11,163 gold. -Dragonman0007 — Unsigned comment by 142.197.82.233 (talk) at 19:50 on 23 July 2013
Looks like none of the "most valuable potions" lists have been updated since the Creation Club/Anniversary edition updates. I haven't dug very deeply into the new ingredients, but just noticing that Fungus Stalk has a greater value mod for Fortify Health than Giant's Toe and it also has the Waterbreathing effect, allowing you to basically combine two previously-most-valuable combinations. Just testing it out with Salmon Roe, Fungus Stalk, and Garlic, I got a potion that was almost 20% more valuable than Salmon Roe, Garlic, and Nordic B. 65.29.152.242 02:42, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Easy farm for salmon roe[edit]

This is a really easy way to farm the roe. It's simple just sneak in the water to where u can see the salmon, but can still pull out a bow. Then just aim and fire. You will need to retreive the salmon's bodie to get the roe. Magic and melee didn't seem to work. There are some spot that don't work, probably because the hit box. The currents between the waterfalls near dragonreach is a example of this, but if you go past the waterfalls there will be deep pool full of salmon this is a good place to farm. I have not really tested any other place, but I hope this will help someone. — Unsigned comment by ‎ 24.40.219.148 (talk) at 22:56 on 25 November 2013

I have finish testing, but if I figure anything else out I will update this. First THIS IS A BUG, the reason why I know this is because when you do kill the salmon the body doesn't have a search icon. You Mit think "so what there is no icon". It means a lot. The icon to search means the creatures expect that you would do this and since there is no icon to search that mean they don't know about this with means its a bug. Second the location is northwest the ritual stone. Last how to farm the roe. If skyrim uses close to the same way minecraft load it's map ( the map is cut in to chunks and when you get in to range it reloads this part of the map, but when you walk away from it, it unloads that part) that means you could farm easy. To farm you just kill all the salmon, than you leave the area. Like go to a city or any other place. Than u just walk back. They should have responded. Shout work better than arrows — Unsigned comment by ‎ 24.40.219.148 (talk) at 01:20 on 26 November 2013
I have found the easiest way to farm for Salmon Roe is to stand right by a waterfall (such as the river stretch between Riverwood and Whiterun) where Salmon are jumping then use the Animal Allegiance shout. They will submit and gently float down river where you can catch them and harvest Roe without any difficulty. No spells, no trying to shoot them with arrows or other foolishness. — Unsigned comment by 68.44.40.55 (talk) at 13:49 on 26 March 2014‎

Odd Note[edit]

"When combined with Garlic, Chicken's Egg, or Nordic Barnacle at an alchemy lab, you can make the most valuable potion in the game..." That note doesn't seem to have much to do with salmon roe. Is that supposed to be there? AutoPilot (talk) 18:27, 3 February 2014 (GMT)

I believe it is saying that if you combine salmon roe with Garlic, Chicken's Egg or a Nordic Barnacle, you will get the most valuable potion. Does that make more sense as to why it is on the page? Jeancey (talk) 18:39, 3 February 2014 (GMT)
(edit conflict) As you can see in the table on the right of the page, the Waterbreathing effect of roe is assigned a value 15.4 times that of normal ingredients. Thus, when it's used as a component with those other ingredients, the resulting potion will be very, very valuable. A small increase in value wouldn't be notable, but fifteen times certainly is. I've clarified the note a bit to explain it more precisely. -- Hargrimm(T) 18:40, 3 February 2014 (GMT)
Ah ok, I saw 3 ingredients all of which were not salmon roe and it just seemed fishy, my mistake. AutoPilot (talk) 19:08, 3 February 2014 (GMT)

Cleanup[edit]

After getting Alfwyn to do some ck checking I removed everything that smacked of user-experience and made it more like the other ingredient pages. It could now do with a list of jumping salmon which have a different id (0010b035 and 0010c3ba) to normal salmon. I also removed a confirmed bug, which to me is a clear issue of not knowing there is more than one type of salmon. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 20:41, 3 February 2014 (GMT)

Respawn[edit]

I started a new game and after clearing out some places with Salmon Soe (River down from Whiterun), it didn't respawn evean after waiting for more than 1 month in Solitude. Anybody ever had this problem (and maybe fixed it)? --Romulus (talk) 18:39, 26 November 2014 (GMT)

Why bug?[edit]

Who decided the price adjustment is a bug? There are several other ingredients that have an increased (or decreased!) value compared to others; the ever-famous combo of bear claws, giant toes, and hanging moss comes to mind. What makes it a bug here, and who decided it was such? 71.10.36.219 03:46, 27 August 2016 (UTC)Tsuki_Ouji, he-who-forgets-password

Crap, please ignore this. It's late, I'm stressed, and only read half of the stuff. Sorry. — Unsigned comment by 71.10.36.219 (talk) at 03:52 on 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Doesn't it seem suspiciously like a bug to anyone else?[edit]

Yes, there are other ingredients that give increased or decreased duration for certain effects. But no other effects are nearly as big ratios as the increase for Waterbreathing OR the decrease for Fortify Magicka. I find it very unlikely that the developers wanted to make an ingredient that has an exceptionally long duration for one effect and, for whatever reason, an exceptionally short duration for the other effect to the point that it's practically useless, that just happened to make it so that the durations are swapped. It seems a whole lot more likely that some programmer accidentally mixed up the durations when typing them in.