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Do spouse follower's sell thier items?

I noticed while buying things from Brelyna Maryon that the items I gave her along with her wedding ring. Do I need to worry about her selling these items or do they just show up? — Unsigned comment by 50.81.154.95 (talk) at 14:30 on 29 February 2012

As far as I can tell, if your spouse is a follower, all of your spouse's personal property (except for hidden items) shows up in the store. If you are not at home, and you talk to your follower spouse and ask to see the store, there's no connection to the merchant chest and you get a store with 0 gold that only sells the items your spouse follower is currently carrying. --99.245.236.172 04:46, 26 September 2012 (GMT)

Though all of your spouse's inventory appears in the "sale" window, she only actually sells to you. The additional "merchant items" you see popping up are part of a package she gets as part of the "merchant chest" she gains when she's married, and it is randomly refreshed every couple days based on your level. The gear you gave her (including the ring and her starting goodies) is not in the merchant chest, it's in her personal inventory. It does not disappear. When you have her join you as a follower, she loses access to the merchant chest, home cooking and the daily gold, but you can then trade stuff with her for free. When you release her, she goes home again, and regains access to the merchant chest, home cooking and daily gold. Xaa (talk) 11:18, 27 September 2012 (GMT)

I'm pretty sure that's true of ALL merchants. Whatever appears to be happening in the world, nobody ever actually sells anything to anyone except you. The gold from your spouse's "store" is just gold that gets automatically added to her inventory every day, and has nothing to do with her actually selling stuff. This can be proven by choosing a spouse who is a follower - they will still get money from the store every day despite being by your side the whole time and never interacting with anyone. TheRealLurlock (talk) 11:33, 27 September 2012 (GMT)

Just a note, a spouse follower doesn't automatically lose access to the merchant chest when following you. The spouse only loses access to the merchant chest when you take him/her away from home, wherever that might be. But if the spouse is following you and you're inside your marital home you get access to the regular merchant items. --Morrolan (talk) 21:19, 1 February 2013 (GMT)

Surprise gifts?

The page claims that spouses will sometimes "surprise you with a gift", but does not elaborate. Do all spouses do this? How rare is it? What kind of gifts are we talking about? I've never gotten anything but the "Home-cooked meal" or the gold from our "store", wherever that is. Then again, I married Lydia, who is both my housecarl and follower, so maybe you only get gifts from stay-at-home spouses? I've never tried that - getting the various spousal benefits wherever you go in the world is too useful to make it worth marrying anyone who isn't a follower, but maybe that's how they balance it out? TheRealLurlock (talk) 23:03, 3 September 2012 (EDT)

It's just a "I like you thing" for all npcs. Spouses just really like you, and may do it more often.--Br3admax (talk) 23:08, 3 September 2012 (EDT)

Yeah, it's not unique to spouses; it depends on an NPC's disposition to you and chance. I've had it happen with minor NPCs, followers, and spouses before. — ABCface^◥ 23:50, 3 September 2012 (EDT)

Well, gee, now I feel mildly insulted that she hasn't gotten me anything. Come to think of it, I don't think I've gotten a gift from anyone, though there are many people who like me. I do tend to spend more of my time out in the wilderness though, so maybe I don't interact with NPCs as much as I should. (Particularly ones whose quest-lines are concluded.) And as for Lydia, I pretty much only talk to her to trade items. (She's not very talkative anyhow. Hasn't said anything new in quite some time.) Geez, this marriage thing is more realistic than you'd expect from a game... TheRealLurlock (talk) 23:03, 4 September 2012 (EDT)

It may have happened without you realizing it. The NPC walks up and says I got you this! and then the item goes automatically into your inventory. It's like meeting a courier, only quite a bit quicker. I did a double-take when I realized it was happening and that Lucan Valerius was giving me something; of course it was only an iron sword... which I promptly sold back to him. I do wonder if it had happened at other times and some of the debris in my inventory was just people liking me too much and encumbering me with detritus. --99.245.236.172 04:57, 26 September 2012 (GMT)

Well, if it's not unique to spouses, and can just be from anyone that likes you enough, I'd say it doesn't really belong on this page. Anyone disagree? TheRealLurlock (talk) 12:16, 26 September 2012 (GMT)

(←) I've never received a thing from my spouse other than the usual $100 a day and home cooked meals. If it is true he has to like me a lot first, how do I do that? Stay at our house together for long periods of time(in my house in Whiterun), converse frequently, or buy from him frequently? Do I have to wear my Bond of Matrimony ring? My husband is Scouts-Many-Marshes (and he seems to have a dialogue problem when I ask him what he has for sale). Any help is appreciated. :) — Unsigned comment by 72.231.198.129 (talk) at 03:56 on 29 December 2012

If he likes you enough to marry you, he likes you enough to give you random gifts. The thing is, since it's random, there's nothing you can do to make it more likely to happen. — ABCface^◥ 15:53, 29 December 2012 (GMT)

Missing Candidates

I noticed that Erik the Slayer isn't listed on the page. You can definitely marry him. Is this an over site or is there a reason? — Unsigned comment by 94.192.117.134 (talk) at 08:50 on 5 September 2012‎

NPCs who can be married are part of the PotentialMarriageFaction, which he is not a part of. What platform are you playing on, and what version? — ABCface^◥ 08:46, 5 September 2012 (EDT)

(←) I have married Gregor my housecarl. I don't see him on your list either. I'm playing the pc version with hearthfire and dawnguard. — Unsigned comment by 94.174.40.111 (talk) at 02:05 on 6 January 2013‎

You're right about Gregor, he can be married and isn't listed yet. I'll add him and Valdimar who is also missing from the list. — ABCface^◥ 05:16, 6 January 2013 (GMT)

Marriage for Odfel

Okay, since multiple people keep changing the verification note as to whether it is possible for Odfel to be marriageable without any pre-requirements, this post is for people to confirm whether this is happening for all platforms. I can confirm that I cannot seem to be able to marry him on the PS3 platform myself, and of course we need confirmation for Xbox 360 and PC. If the PC players are able to marry him through console commands, then I think it would be wise to put a bug note on his individual character page stating that he is unable to be married without the console commands, etc. And then we should link that particular bug note from his individual page onto the Marriage page in replacement to his requirements just stating "None". I hope I made some kind of sense as to the point I'm trying to get across here. - Helenaannevalentine (talk) 01:26, 12 September 2012 (GMT)

I know for a fact he cannot be married on Xbox, at least not before installing Dawnguard. I haven't tried since adding that DLC, but I can if needed. — ABCface^◥ 02:17, 12 September 2012 (GMT)

If you could do that and double-check as to whether to Dawnguard plug-in changes anything as to whether you are able to marry him, that would be very helpful to add more specifics to the bug that is occuring causing him to not be marriageable despite him being listed in the PotentialMarriageFaction - Helenaannevalentine (talk) 02:55, 12 September 2012 (GMT)

Jordis as a Second Wife.

Found a way to have two spouses on PC using Jordis. As thane, she already lives in BreezehomeProudspire Manor, sleeps in the unfinished basement room.

Preliminary situation: You are unmarried, a thane of Solitude, own BreezehomeProudspire Manor, Jordis is alive and living in Breezehome, but not following you at present. You have no followers tagging along behind you.

1) Marry someone OTHER than Jordis, using the normal routine.

2) Catch up with them after the wedding, they'll be at their home. Enter the "where do we live" dialogue. Choose to live with them. Exit the conversation and wait a couple minutes for them to settle into doing something other than walking around. Talk to them again, select the "I think we should move somewhere else", and have them move into your home in BreezehomeProudspire Manor. They will sleep in the master bedroom. Jordis will still be sleeping in the basement.

3) Go to BreezehomeProudspire Manor and wait for your spouse to arrive. Sometimes this can take several game hours.

4) Interact with them, sleeping for the "lover's comfort" in the master bedroom, getting the home-cooked meal, etc. Wait 24 hours.

5)Open the console.

• • setrelationshiprank A2C95 4
  • player.removefac C6472
  • resetquest 74793
  • setstage 74793 10

6) Close the console.

7) Put on an amulet of Mara.

8) Talk to Jordis, selecting the "Interested in me, are you?" option, and tell her you want to marry her.

9) Exit BreezehomeProudspire Manor.

10) Fast-travel to Riften, enter temple of Mara, arrange marriage as normal.

Result: You are still married to your first spouse (whoever that may be, in my case it was Muiri) and the first spouse still has access to the merchant chest, daily gold from their shop and will cook food (if they were cooking before, some don't). Jordis is a second spouse who will buy/sell, but has no daily gold or self-spawning inventory of her own (because she doesn't have access to the merchant chest) and will not cook. She also does not address you as "My love" when you exit conversations with her, that privilege still belongs to the first wife.

This procedure could probably be tweaked to allow Jordis access to the merchant chest, or tweaked to allow other spouses aside from Jordis, etc., but I'll leave that for others to experiment with. I only did this myself because I got tired of Jordis constantly saying "Are you lost?" and "I hope you're not thinking of causing any trouble." every damn time I entered BreezehomeProudspire Manor. A funny thought struck me - hey, maybe she's jealous I didn't marry her. So, I did. Xaa (talk) 13 September 2012

You don't mean Breezehome, that's the house in Whiterun. You mean Proudspire Manor, the house in Solitude, right? --99.245.236.172 04:49, 26 September 2012 (GMT)

Yes. Xaa (talk)

Married to Aela but love Jordis' voice, definitely going to try this method. But I'm a little confused of step 2~4 though. What do they do? What will happen if I skip them? I'm going to experiment for a while. 134.82.201.189 03:12, 30 September 2012 (GMT)

Spouse Behavior

I married Aela with my primary Dragonborn and all she does is hang around the house all day, waiting to be recruited as a follower. But now I'm wondering if that's because when she was single, all Aela did was hang around Jorrvaskr all day, waiting to be recruited as a follower. If you marry an NPC who has a daily routine (going to the market, inn, etc), do they maintain that routine after marriage? What if you move them to another city? Do their habits transfer over or do they become a homebody, like Aela? SonGoharotto (talk) 14:58, 3 October 2012 (GMT)

In my experience, this happens with most spouses. They will interact with various parts of your house but won't ever leave unless they're a follower and you make them. — ABCface^◥ 15:16, 3 October 2012 (GMT)

As far as I can tell, this happens with all spouses. The exception is if you move them into a Hearthfire home, then they will wander around outside in the general area of your house as well. --Morrolan (talk) 22:54, 3 March 2013 (GMT)

Marriage bug?

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Alright so I adopted Lucia in whiterun and talk to the priest in riften and bought the amulet of Mara but I can't seem to marry anyone even if I complete their quests . Has anyone else had this problem? — Unsigned comment by 69.116.25.30 (talk) at 22:25 on 18 October 2012

You bought the Amulet of Mara, but are you wearing it when you talk to the person you want to marry? You have to wear an Amulet of Mara. It doesn't necessarily have to be the one you bought from Maramal. Amulets of Mara are fairly common in the game, any one will do. --Morrolan (talk) 22:50, 22 February 2013 (GMT)

There is definitely no bug. I was in exactely the same situation and had no problems to find a spouse - you just have to wear the Amulet of Mara. — Unsigned comment by 83.60.187.178 (talk) at 21:57 on 3 March 2013

Remarriage after Spouse Death

On the Marriage page, it lists that you cannot remarry if your spouse is killed.

This is false. I have remarried before, after killing my own spouse. One of the couriers will eventually come to you with a note from the Imperial something-or-other, and some money. Then you can remarry. — Unsigned comment by 156.34.190.31 (talk) at 10:37 on 30 October 2012

Hmmm...Are you sure this isn't the product of some mod? If it is, it shouldn't be noted.--Skyrimplayer (talk) 15:39, 30 October 2012 (GMT)

No, I'm using PS3. I've read of other people doing this before, as well. Maybe it's got a glitch within it? I've killed my spouse 2 times in Skyrim. The first time, I killed them by sacrificing them to Boethia: no courier came to me. The second time, I just killed them walking on the road, because I didn't realize how ugly they were until they married me. A little while later, a courier came, with a letter from the imperial something-or-other, expressing sympathies and giving me money. I then remarried. Next time I kill my spouse, I'll videotape it, and record what happens. — Unsigned comment by 156.34.190.31 (talk) at 18:06 on 3 November 2012‎

Spouse Invincibility?

This may not actually be a bug and may just be lucky on my part but is it possible that spouse's are unable to be killed in some circumstances? My character is married to Revyn Sadri and we live in Lakeview Manor. It has been attacked by dragons at least three times and each time Revyn foolishly jumps into the fight. He goes through the usual sequence and when his health falls to a certain level, he falls to his knees and tries to crawl away. However, the dragon stops attacking him at this point and only starts again once he has regained enough health to get back on his feet. Is it possible that your spouse is considered an essential character in these kind of situations or is this just sheer luck? Thelisaraptor (talk) 18:34, 3 November 2012 (GMT)

I think the spouses are semi-essential. So I think only you can kill them when they're recovering. --Sencilia (talk) 13:50, 4 November 2012 (GMT)

Can the page expand on this information? Which spouses are non-essential, essential, and "semi-essential"? Before this page was redone, there was information about how some spouses were essential as quest givers, but I remember at least one they warned became only semi-essential if you married her. In other words, you could possibly break quest lines by marrying her. Was this a bug? Was it "fixed"? If not, that kind of information should be mentioned clearly in the page. Amsuko (talk) 04:16, 18 November 2012 (GMT)

According to Protected NPCs, spouses are automatically protected. --Alfwyn (talk) 23:02, 1 December 2012 (GMT)

Gay marriage?

Is it possible for gay marriage?My brother is a female Nord and wants to marry Lydia.He owns the Breezehome and meets all other requirements. — Unsigned comment by Alduin,Bane of Kings (talk • contribs) at 20:08 on 18 November 2012

Well, technically, yes. You can marry someone of the same gender, but you would have to add her manually to the potential marriage faction in order to get the dialouge. See here and here for a better explanation. But note that the console can only be used by PC players.--Skyrimplayer (talk) 20:29, 18 November 2012 (GMT)

That was fixed in Skyrim patch 1.5, she should be marriable normally now. You can marry people of the same gender, Lydia had a bug that made her not marriable without the console--][Respect the wind][ (talk) 20:35, 18 November 2012 (GMT)

Lydia and Breezehome?

I purchased Breezehome then married Lydia. When given the option I went "Sure, I'll move in with you". And we moved into... Breezehome. o_O And I'm all "Err, no, this is MY place". Is that a bug? --Irrevenant (talk) 02:06, 16 December 2012 (GMT)

No, it's not a bug. Lydia is a housecarl. All player's housecarls reside in your house within that city, assuming you own one. So Lydia's residence is Breezehome, or Dragonsreach if you don't own Breezehome yet. However, I don't think you can marry Lydia until you own it (at least that's been my experience, though other factors may influence the option), so it may be moot. Quillan (talk) 01:55, 19 December 2012 (GMT)

"Moonwalking" spouse after kidnap?

I came across a bug that hasn't been mentioned on this page. My spouse got kidnapped (Hearthfire), so I rescued her and we went back to the house. However, after a while I noticed she was walking backwards in a strange fashion and tried to walk through immoveable objects (such as walls, cupboards, etc.). She seems to "think" that she's still locked in a cage, though her dialogue went back to normal as soon as I rescued her. Turning her into a vampire didn't solve it and as far as I remember, neither did killing and resurrecting her through console. I googled it and found others with the same issue but no one seems to have come up with a fix. Anyway, I thought this might be worth adding to the main article as a bug, however rare it may be. Perhaps then someone more capable than I will be able to fix it.— Unsigned comment by 178.251.245.111 (talk) at 16:35 on 7 January 2013 (GMT)

Unclothed Spouse

Has that bug ever been confirmed? It was added by an IP address. I hate to by cynical, but that smacks to me of someone using mods or a fake post--~The wind, forsaken~ (talk) 15:13, 31 January 2013 (GMT)

I suspect it is a misinterpretation. If you have a spouse follower, and you take your spouse outside, give him/her some better armor than what he/she currently has, open his/her store and buy the spouse's default clothing (e.g. buying Aela's Ancient Nord Armor because you're curious what it looks like) then your spouse often won't respawn armor. This means that when he/she is in a situation where he/she is only wearing default clothing he/she will be naked. The only other way I know of to get a naked spouse is via Pickpocket 100 & Perfect Touch, which if the user had done that would probably know why the spouse was naked. --Morrolan (talk) 21:25, 1 February 2013 (GMT)

Different Per Day Bonus?

A buddy of mine told me that different spouses have different Gold Per Day bonus's. Any Truth to this? if so is there anywhere that tell you what the bonus's are? Warrof (talk) 04:09, 5 February 2013 (GMT)

There is no truth to this. All spouses have stores that make 100 gold per day. It doesn't matter if you marry Lydia or the wealthiest merchant in Skyrim, the bonus is always the same. --Morrolan (talk) 14:14, 7 February 2013 (GMT)

If you skip asking for the money for a day or two, it stacks up, and you get it all at once - Maybe this is where your friend thought he was getting different amounts. --Crayolamanic (talk) 11:42, 8 March 2013 (GMT)

DG Marriages?

Has anyone ever TRIED marrying Ronthil? He just seems too pitiable and lovable NOT to be a marriage option. Maybe you need to finish the questline? I don't want to force myself to finish the questline and kill my current spouse just to find out my hopes are wrong. Someone tell Bethesda to make him marriable :I 184.57.104.54 04:03, 31 March 2013 (GMT)

It is not a question of trying. The data clearly indicates that he is not. Jeancey (talk) 04:26, 31 March 2013 (GMT)