Oblivion:A Brush with Death
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[edit] Quick Walkthrough
- Listen to rumors in Cheydinhal about the missing painter, and meet his wife, Tivela, in their house.
- Tivela tells you about her husband locking himself in his room; go to his room, and enter the painting.
- Find Rythe and he tells you about a thief who stole his magic paintbrush.
- Find the thief's corpse and retrieve the paintbrush.
- Return to Rythe with the brush and you will both return to Tamriel. He will reward you with the Apron of Adroitness.
[edit] Detailed Walkthrough
[edit] Missing Painter
If you ask around town in Cheydinhal, people will tell you that Rythe Lythandas, a famous painter, has gone missing, and his wife, Tivela, is very upset. Go to the Lythandas house on the south side of town, and talk to Tivela for more information. Tivela tells you that Rythe had locked himself in his study, as he often did. However, after not seeing him for several days, Tivela decided to investigate. Upon doing so, she discovers that Rythe has disappeared!
[edit] Find Rythe
Tivela gives you the key to Rythe's study. Open the door and take a look around. You should notice fairly quickly that one of the paintings is actually a door. Enter the painting. You soon arrive in a painted semblance of the great forest, and Rythe is standing near you. He reveals that a thief stole his magical paintbrush, which allows him to enter paintings to make them look more realistic. The thief created some painted trolls to guard him, but instead they killed him. Rythe needs the paintbrush so that both of you can escape. If you ask him about the painted trolls, he gives you six bottles of turpentine, which do a level dependent amount of damage (see chart below) to painted trolls when applied to your weapon.
[edit] Retrieve the Brush
There are at least six painted trolls that tend to be hard to kill. Two applications of turpentine generally kill one painted troll, but depending on your level you may need up to four (see the table below.) Fire damage works similarly on painted trolls as on standard trolls. The trolls also cannot jump or climb, so rocks can provide a safe haven for your character during battle. However, they are fast, and you will generally not outrun one for long. Each troll also has painted troll fat, a unique ingredient with different properties than regular troll fat. This quest is the only place in Oblivion where you can get it, and it can not be duplicated in the Enchanted Chest. Therefore, you may want to kill as many painted trolls here as you can find.
You can evade most of the trolls if, instead of following the path, you travel south and a bit west over the rocks from where you start. You will still have to kill the one or two trolls closest to the thief's corpse, but with six bottles of turpentine, this shouldn't be a problem. You can also lure them to Lythandas, who, although weak, is essential and will not die.
[edit] Return to Tamriel
After looting the thief's corpse and returning the brush to Rythe, he paints a portal back to Tamriel. When you arrive, stick around and listen to the conversation he has with his wife. Afterwards, he'll give you the Apron of Adroitness, a light armor chest piece with a leveled agility and intelligence boost. If you do this quest early and want to wait for better gear, you should leave while Rythe and Tivela are still talking. Come back later to receive your now higher-level apron. This works because the apron level is determined the moment you receive it from Rythe.
[edit] Turpentine Leveling
There seem to be several "sweet spots" for the best level to do this quest. Both the Trolls and the Turpentines are leveled, but the Turpentines only increase in damage every 4 levels, while the Trolls increase every level, so if you do the quest at either level 1 or a multiple of 4, you will do optimal damage with the Turpentine. Level 1 is clearly the best time to do this quest as seen from the chart below. Turpentines do not increase in damage after level 20 so it will only get harder after that. This chart does not take into account the damage from the weapon you use to deliver the poison.
| Level | Health | Damage | # Needed | Level | Health | Damage | # Needed | Level | Health | Damage | # Needed | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 25 | 20 | 1.25 | 8 | 200 | 100 | 2 | 15 | 375 | 150 | 2.5 | ||
| 2 | 50 | 20 | 2.5 | 9 | 225 | 100 | 2.25 | 16 | 400 | 200 | 2 | ||
| 3 | 75 | 20 | 3.75 | 10 | 250 | 100 | 2.5 | 17 | 425 | 200 | 2.13 | ||
| 4 | 100 | 50 | 2 | 11 | 275 | 100 | 2.75 | 18 | 450 | 200 | 2.25 | ||
| 5 | 125 | 50 | 2.4 | 12 | 300 | 150 | 2 | 19 | 475 | 200 | 2.38 | ||
| 6 | 150 | 50 | 3 | 13 | 325 | 150 | 2.17 | 20 | 500 | 250 | 2 | ||
| 7 | 175 | 50 | 3.5 | 14 | 350 | 150 | 2.33 | 21 | 525 | 250 | 2.1 |
[edit] Notes
- Oddly, the body when you find it is labeled as "Bosmer Thief", and Lythandas notes multiple times that the thief is Bosmer. However, a closer inspection reveals that the body is actually that of an Altmer. The name in the Construction Set is "Senannala," which sounds slightly more like an Altmer name than Bosmer, though Bosmer and Altmer names are often similar.
This bug is fixed by the Unofficial Oblivion Patch.
- After you complete this quest, a special edition of the Black Horse Courier is published: "Greatest Painter Safe!".
[edit] Bugs
- After completing the quest, the Lythandases may consider you to be trespassing (although, as you've just completed a quest for them, their disposition should be high enough for you just to yield to them).
This bug is fixed by the Unofficial Oblivion Patch.- If you are considered trespassing after returning from the painting, Rythe may not talk to his wife. Talk to him for the reward.
- Occasionally upon entering the Painted World, Rythe does not converse with you about the thief and stolen paintbrush. The painted trolls are active, and you can kill them, but there is no thief or paintbrush to be found.
This bug is fixed by the Unofficial Oblivion Patch.- In this case, save and reload the game, then approach Rythe. This should cause the quest to progress as usual. Alternatively, return to the spot where you first entered the Painted World and wait a second or two. This should trigger the appropriate quest update and cause Rythe to speak to you.
- After returning the paintbrush to Rythe, sometimes the door he paints for you to return to Tamriel will not be visible or cannot be used.
This bug is fixed by the Unofficial Oblivion Patch.- Workaround: Make sure you save the game immediately before returning the paintbrush, and if this glitch occurs, reload and try again. Alternatively, try to pickpocket Rythe (he must catch you) before he begins painting. Another solution is to hit Rythe and then immediately yield. Don't worry, the crime will not be reported and there is no bounty since no guards are around to witness the crime. This does not affect Rythe's disposition towards you because it will be set to the max upon leaving the painting.
Similar to the Where Spirits Have Lease portal problem, this may be caused due to using a console command or mod to change the default 30:1 timescale used by the game. Use the console command set timescale to 30to reset your timescale to default. After using the painting to return to the real world, feel free to change it back to your custom setting.
If this bug occurs and you don't have a save, use the console to enter the following commands:
- If you kill Tivela before she has given you Rythe's Studio key, you may never continue further in this quest.
This bug is fixed by the Unofficial Oblivion Patch.
You can get the key by using player.additem 0001bc2c 1in the console to gain access to the study.
- If you interact with Rythe while he is forming the portal, he might never make it. He stops and stands at the same spot forever, saying it's not the time to talk. Reloading from a previous save is needed. However, if you manage to yield to Rythe before he himself decides to stop attacking, he will make the portal.
This bug is fixed by the Unofficial Oblivion Patch.
- After completing the quest, Tivela will incorrectly refer to male characters as "muthsera", a term which is meant to refer to females.
This bug is fixed by the Unofficial Oblivion Patch.
- Upon completion of the quest, and Rythe returning to the community, his rumor option will still be that of his wife looking for him, and being sick over it.
This bug is fixed by the Unofficial Oblivion Patch.
[edit] Journal Entries
- Notes
- Not all Journal Entries may appear in your journal; which entries appear and which entries do not depends on the manner in which the quest is done.
- Stages are not always in order of progress. This is usually the case with quests that have multiple possible outcomes or quests where certain tasks may be done in random order.
- If an entry is marked as "Finishes Quest" it means the quest disappears from the Active Quest list, but you may still receive new entries for that quest.
- On the PC, it is possible to use the console to advance through the quest by entering
setstage MS14 stage, wherestageis the number of the stage you wish to complete. It is not possible to un-complete (i.e. go back) quest stages. See SetStage for more information.

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