Lore talk:The Battlespire
First, sorry, I'm not well versed on the lore beyond that presented in TES3-4 but this slipstream concept, as well as the "outer realms" mentioned in some books, by the last living Dwemer, and explored in mods such as Children of Rourken Episode 1 (TES4) is fascinating. Medieval swordplay and "tactical magic" are fun staples of fantasy games but some true fantasy depth can be found in exploring the far reaches of a canon beyond what most would consider an ordinary world. Also, on a more practical note this article is a stub in need of improvement...which ever way its looked at some questions need answering.
Questions: Is this considered canon? If so...
- What was the origin of the battlespire?
- How and why was it constructed?
- Could it be rebuilt?
- What was its strategic and tactical value beyond training? (e.g. why "battle"-spire? or as an imperial stronghold what did it safeguard? secrets? strategic reserves? platform to launch invasions of Oblivion?)
- Are there any other "slipstream" locations? (no search results)
- What sort of magic was involved in accessing the slipstream? (e.g. for lore compliance with future mods)
- This suggests highly advanced technology masked in fantasy magic (so the saying goes), does this have some basis in quantum mechanics or string theory, or TES equivalent nature of existence type model? If so, perhaps it could be connected to other uses or domains of magic in an overarching model providing a basis for mods to create lore compliant portals, teleportation networks, extra dimensional pockets (e.g. of the type often used for house mods), power wells, and so on...and by deduction indicate what should be present if a mod were to pop open an access panel on some of the existing teleporters, ruins, gates, etc. Could even hint at the nature of the various deities by placing their "level" of existence in context.
Overall its helpful to examine some of this stuff from a technological, practical, or "theory and practice" perspective, rather than historical within a canon context as is too common with lore. --MegaBurn (humble guest) 18.104.22.168 07:32, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
- I'll attempt to answer your questions as best I can. Yes, the Battlespire is canon.
- The origins are unknown.
- It was constructed for magical training, I assume because it was a small realm with access to Oblivion but where experiments would have no detrimental effects on Tamriel.
- I guess it could be rebuilt, but again it's unknown.
- It was built as the training academy of the "Shadow Guard", some mysterious magically-oriented section of the Imperial Legion. It was also an out-of-realm stronghold used for easy access to Oblivion.
- None that I know of.
- Teleportation. The "Pillar of Light" - some strange metallic device found on a tiny island - zaps you up.
- I don't think the devs thought to hard about it. It was made with magic, end of. If you want to put more depth behind it, there's no lore explanation stopping you from creating a mod.
- There isn't much information about the Battlespire. We know it has five "anchors" which stop it from being destroyed, we know that it was destroyed when Mehrunes Dagon was defeated, we know the attacking Daedra bore Daedric Crescents that were smelted down in the aftermath (all but one), and we know what little insight the Battlespire opening cinematic provides. This article isn't marked as a stub because it really isn't - that's the most info we have. Legoless 11:22, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
What are the dates (or date ranges) for the events of the Battlespire? There are references to Jagar tharn so It is presumably between 3 E 389-399, but I was hoping someone might have something more specific. — Unsigned comment by 22.214.171.124 (talk) at 16:53 on 8 May 2013 (GMT)