Oblivion talk:Mercantile

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== Incorrect use of bartering ==

Bartering means exchanging goods for something of equal value... this should really say bargaining, or haggling over a price. It is described as such using the Haggle button. {{unsigned|90.198.216.65|29 June 2010}}
:Indeed, thanks for pointing it out. --[[User:SerCenKing|SerCenKing]] [[User talk:SerCenKing|Talk]] 18:37, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

== Arrow Bug ==

I moved this from the main article:

Unpatched

Go to the Slash 'N Smash he will be selling iron arrows buy one at a time and he will never run out works for the xbox 360 that I know of.

It needs confirmation, and to be rewritten. --[[User:Arch-Mage Matt|''Arch-Mage Matt'']] [[Special:Contributions/Arch-Mage Matt|Did '''I''' Do That?]] 17:13, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

: It's not a bug as such - his vendor chests are set to have 20 respawning arrows each. It's similar with other vendor and, for instance, bear pelts. [[User:Rpeh|rpeh]] •[[User_Talk:Rpeh|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/Rpeh|C]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Rpeh|E]]• 17:40, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

== Master of mercantile does NOT allow "best" deals for buying spells ==

One would assume that since buying/selling items can be done at a 100/100 ratio, one could also buy spells at the best rate. However, unlike bartering for items (where once you hit master, all prices are the best possible no matter what your disposition/haggle slider is) spells can still be bought under the best rate, and often can't even if you wasn't to, even with a disposition of 100 and mercantile of 100. Shall I add this? I didn't see it anywhere on the main page. [[User:Dtmwerks|dtm]] 12:04, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

== Tip Question ==

This tip is written for PC users. Can it be done for console users? It needs to be written to say if your are on pc if it only works on pc. I will write 'if you are playing on pc' for now until it is confirmed.
Instead of selling, for example, one arrow at a time, you can do this to get a lot of one item transactions faster:
* Empty all items that you are carrying in a crate or your personal storage chest.
* Go to a store with a lot of item types (better if they are cheap, like food/ingredient store)
* Buy everything from the seller
* Drop all the items that are worth more than 10 coins
* Also drop all the items that have a quatity of 3 or more, until they are at 2 at most.
* Now go to the npc and sell everything hitting the 'Up arrow' key followed by the 'Enter' key very fast.
* Keep buying/selling everything from/to the npc.
* Sure you lose some coins every time you do it, but it's a LOT faster than other legal methods.
--[[User:Manic|Manic]] 16:25, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

: I've removed this from the article entirely. For a start, the intro now reads "If you are playing on PC (if you are not, this also works)" - which is utterly revolting wording - but it even admits "Sure you lose some coins every time you do it". The other tips are much better because they don't assume you've got enough money to throw away. On balance, this isn't a very good tip. [[User:Rpeh|rpeh]] •[[User_Talk:Rpeh|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/Rpeh|C]]•[[Special:Emailuser/Rpeh|E]]• 06:16, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

RE: --[[User:Dandjh|Dandjh]] August 2 2011

: Ok, I know it can be written in a better way. But this is the fastest legal way to raise the skill, it costs some money, but it is a LOT faster. Watch this vid and probe me wrong: http://bit.ly/qTnFfj

: Thanks for this excellent tip [[Special:Contributions/80.56.63.45|80.56.63.45]] 19:05, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

== Skill over 100 ==

What if your mercantile skill is greater than 100 (e.g., 103) -- will that allow for better buy-and-sell prices than when the player character was at 100?

Similar question regarding personality attribute -- if the player character has a persoality greater than 100, will that affect the merchantile (dependent skill)?{{unsigned|76.226.40.39|18:06, 13th August 2011}}

:No, once your mercantile level reaches 100 and you receive the Master level perk you are able to buy and sell items at their full value (up to the amount of gold the vendor has available). This is done automatically and does not require bartering. Any further increase will give no advantage to the player, similarly any personality increase will have no effect on the mercantile skill and will not give you the perk any sooner.-[[User:Masterlocksmith|Masterlocksmith]] 18:57, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

::Disposition can go over 100 and it would affect haggling. First [[Oblivion:Disposition#Increasing Disposition|permanently increase disposition by giving yourself 100 Speechcraft and doing disposition mini-game]], then Charm the person by 100 pts which will add up, giving you a nice bonus to haggling percentiles. [[User:Slider2k|Slider2k]] 20:56, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

:::Testing this a bit. Only at a base value of 100 mercantile do you get the perk, and not by Fortifying. If you get to this point no factors will get you a better, because you are at max. If you do not have the perk, than all those other affects will change how hard you can barter. As for Fortifying over 100, most skills do not continue to increase anything if fortified over 100. --[[User:DKong27|DKong27]] '''[[User_talk:DKong27|Tk]] [[Special:Contributions/DKong27|Ctr]] [[User:DKong27/Email|Em]]''' 22:51, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

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