Skyrim talk:The Forsworn Conspiracy

2012-01-06T00:33:12Z

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== Bug ==
It looks like if you get teleported to Markath by another quest, the event which triggers this quest chain never starts (if you grab the books involved by the quest first at least). You can still get the quest but Eltrys never spawns. He can be spawned with player.placeatme 00013394. PC version without patch. {{Unsigned|158.136.3.10|04:16, 12 November 2011}}

:If you mean appearing in the Dibella Temple after too much drink, there's no problem. W still sticks a knife in his victim when you encounter them & E give you "your" note. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.86.234|118.208.86.234]]

::I got to Markath for the first time through that drinking competition and my quest was fairly bugged - didn't have any of the quest in my log until I left the Warrens and had Dryston beat me up. Ended up randomly going into Talo's Shrine and started the next quest despite only having done 1/8 of the quest. Really buggy. :(

== bug ==

on the ps3 version, when i completed this quest it took all of my quest items from my inventory. {{Unsigned|108.75.40.143|21:55, 16 November 2011}}

:I'm on the 360 and I didn't lose all my quest items, just the 2 fragments of the Gauldur Amulet I had. I ended up reloading one of my autosaves to where I entered the shrine and got arrested so I left the quest, finished the quest to completely reforge the amulet and then went to finish this quest. I purposely emptied my inventory of everything first, except for my 3 quest items, the 2 diaries for this quest and the Saarthal Amulet. Lo and behold doing this quest again ended up with me losing the Saarthal amulet. So now I've had to reload my autosave again to go sort out the Saarthal amulet quest. Damn annoying. --[[User:Lyco499|Lyco499]] 06:24, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

== Bugs ==

1)Finishing No One Escapes Cidhna Mine grants the player only with one place where Forsworn are not hostile, despite the fact that player is named "friend" of them after the quest is done. In all other places, Forsworn will be hostile.

2)In my game eve nafter finishing the quests The Forsworn Conspiracy and No One Escapes Cidhna Mine, when I enter the Shrine of Talos, the whole thing with the guards repeats itself - they approach me and ask me to go to jail (this may be avoided by jsut not re-entering the Shrine of Talos)... --[[User:Arkhon|Arkhon]] 04:43, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

3)I've run into a bug where gaining a bounty in Markath (no matter the amount) after completing the escape from Cidha mine results in the guards coming up to me and responding with the dialogue inside of the Shrine of Talos. You're just stuck in an endless loop of dialogue (which is especially annoying as other guards like to attack you while you're still talking to them). And then tabbing out of the dialogue menu is met with all of the guards in the immediate area coming after you. The only way I've been able to fix this was to click on the guard, use paycrimegold in the console. It immediately takes you to the keep as if you've paid off your bounty. [[Special:Contributions/12.248.24.182|12.248.24.182]] 22:51, 22 November 2011 (UTC)64K1 10:50, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

The paycrimegold fix doesn't work for me. I completed the original forsword quest by putting an axe through all the prisoners' faces. Later, I murdered an imperial group escorting a Stormcloak prisoner in the borders of the reach which increased my bounty. I went to Markarth to turn in another quest, but the guards go straight into the conspiracy dialogue in an endless loop (as reported above). The paycrimegold console command takes me to the outside of the mine, but the guards are still hostile (I figure this is because my bounty's high enough they'd probably still force jail time). I literally cannot go to the city without being swarmed, which is making it impossible to complete several quests. [[Special:Contributions/98.206.17.95|98.206.17.95]] 18:05, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

- when i was confronted by the soldiers near the end, I asked them to send me to jail but when they did so, the question "what's wrong" came up again, and they proceeded to keep attacking me. (XBox)

On the Xbox I too encountered the bug where the guards would act as though everything was normal, meaning I couldn't progress. I tried waiting for an hour and for 24 hours, and neither worked. I also tried committing a crime, serving my time, and going back, but that didn't work either. After reloading the save from before talking to Eltrys in the Shrine of Talos, I found a solution that worked for me.
What I did after talking to Eltrys was to first go the the Inn, and get information about Margret (I had saved her, so I talked to her directly), and then went back to Eltrys before continuing. I believe this is what fixed it. I then found out about Weylin, and again went back to Eltrys. I proceeded to talk to Thanos, and then went straight to Nepos, and then I could continue the quest normally.

: I'm on the Xbox 360 and I came across a bug similar to those above. I finished the quest entirely, but when I entered the Shrine of Talos the guards there repeated their confrontation dialogue that occurred during the quest. They proceeded to attack me, turning the entire city against me. --[[Special:Contributions/124.170.119.73|124.170.119.73]] 06:15, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

:: On the PC version, I used the <code>killall</code> command once they turned hostile. I still had guards attack me outside, but drawing and sheathing my weapons allowed me to pay off a 1000 bounty, where ever that came from, and everything seems to be fine now. --[[Special:Contributions/84.63.187.133|84.63.187.133]] 19:41, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

::: Went back and retried. If you use <code>killall</code> ''before'' they turn hostile, there's no bounty. I hope this doesn't trigger any kind of cheat flag. --[[Special:Contributions/84.63.187.133|84.63.187.133]] 19:52, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I play it on the PS3 and after completing the quest i went back into Markarth and had a bounty of 4040 gold coins. Eventually i paid it off but when i go back into the shrine of talos the quest repeats it self and i get taking to the mine yet again.

== Margret's name ==

The name of the woman targeted by the "Forsworn" agent early (I believe his name was Weylin) is not Margaret, but Margret. Just a little spelling variation. Anyone mind if I make the necessary name corrections in this page? {{unsigned|174.60.51.49|22 November 2011}}
:It's a wiki, so there's no need to ask before making changes. Especially right when now the Skyrim articles need millions of fixes. --[[User:Nephele|Nephele]]<sup>[[User_talk:Nephele|Talk]]</sup> 16:39, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
::I went ahead and made this change -- it was bugging me, too --[[User:Marlos|Marlos]]

== Correct NPC Names ==

I went ahead and changed the names of the NPCs in the Treasury House, as they were incorrectly referred to as "Tidene" and "Dannel" in the article. The descriptions I added in parentheses after their names won't be necessary when their NPC pages are up and can be linked to. -Guest

== Resisting arrest in the end ==

Right after resisting arrest to the guards, just run to Eltris body, take everything and run away to the city without fighting with guards. If you runs away far enough and guards lost your sight, someone "new" (not agressive before) from them should start another arrest dialogue and you may go to jail normally starting next guest. Or if your Sneak skill high enough you may run and hide somewhere, wait some time until all blows over, and then show yourself.<br>
'''Pros''': avoids tough fight and carnage (for me on PC: only three guards inside Shrine of Talos, but when I started fighting with them another three or random ran inside from the city) and no kills (for "good" characters).

== Correction? ==

Walkthrough says taking Margret's journal will result in a stolen item. I'm playing on the PC and I have the journal, its marked as a quest item, and it is also not market as stolen. Can anyone confirm if the read not take statement in this wiki applies only to consoles?

:A lot of low value items become free to take after you have finished some jobs and all for people. ([[user:Eddie the head|Eddie The Head]] 09:11, 4 December 2011 (UTC))

::My version his dresser draw was not marked red while everything else is. All the contents of the draw including the quest item are also not marked red. Other low value items in the room are still red.

:::When I had gathered all the information, I returned to the Temple of Talos. In full sneak mode, I fired a poisoned arrow at the guard at the bottom of the stairs. He became suspicious (half-opened eye icon), so I ducked back out and robbed the safe at the treasury, to give him time to calm down, and was about to return to the Temple when I noticed that the quest was completed, and I had no bounty from it! Apparently just showing up inside the Temple completes the quest(???) And not being seen avoids the bounty(?) I suppose that if I want to do the next quest, Cidhna Mine, I could get myself arrested for something jailworthy later.

== Another bug. (No attempt arrest - nothing) ==

When I was supposed to return to the shrine instead of three guards there were two plus the legion legate of markarth.

::Same for me (Xbox 360, no updates through Live). The Legion soldier asked me to join the Imperials (I haven't joined any of them yet) and then the marker shows on one of the pillars. No updates. No nothing. No quest ended, no new started. :-/ [[User:Tockenen|Tockenen]] 09:43, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

::::OK, after 300 different tries, this is my workaround ;-) I had visited Nepos first, and that was obviously wrong somehow (hmm) so I reloaded an earlier save and started with Thonar. Then it worked. No legion officer this time, and now the guards wanted to arrest me, so I've just gotten into the prison/mine now - and the next quest has started. [[User:Tockenen|Tockenen]] 10:57, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

== Getting Attacked Bug ==

During a few stages of this quest I was attacked outright by the characters without any possible dialogues. In the Treasury, 2 people attacked me right away. In The Nose's house, four people attacked me. In the warrens, 1 person attacked me (not a fist fight). Despite all this, I was able to get enough evidence and get arrested when the guy in the Shrine of Talos is murdered. May not actually be a bug.

== help? ==

At the end of The Forsworn Conspiracy, what happens if i kill the guards inside the shrine of Talos?
In actuality, what would happen if i fled Makarth, and returned?

:To your first question, see the last paragraph (at least as of now) of the detailed walkthrough: When returning to Eltrys at the end of the quest, you can kill the guards inside the temple with no ill effect if you kill them while successfully sneaking, as they are unwitnessed murders (or, alternatively, I believe, if you kill all the witnesses, which is done when all three guards inside the temple are dead). In my case, I killed only one of them with a bow while sneaking, so the other two did not witness it and therefore did not attack me nor did I incur a bounty. Of course, this means that you will not be arrested as is "supposed" to happen, and you will not gain access to the quest No One Escapes Cidhna Mine. I did not consider this much of a loss due to the bugs, at least in my version, associated with having all of your quest items confisticated and then lost forever if you go to jail. [[User:Jreynolds2|Jreynolds2]] 13:27, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

== Bug: Dryston keeps attacking even though quest is over ==

I ran away from Dryston rather than brawling with him during the quest. I've now completed this quest and the rest of this sequence of quests, yet every time I run into Dryston he keeps attacking me (using the same dialogue options as in the quest).

== Major quest-breaking bug. ==

So I figured out the hard way that trying to get the information on who "N" is from [[Skyrim:Dryston|Dryston]] while wearing the Ebony Mail is a bad idea, and breaks the quest pretty badly. Every time I engaged in a brawl with Dryston while wearing the Ebony Mail, he got poisoned and guards came running. I never could get the information from him, and I ended up having to kill him, which resulted in me finding a note on his corpse, but the marker was still pointing to his corpse. The same thing happened during a brawl with a "Nord" who was insulting me in the city. The Ebony Mail poisoned the Nord and the Guards came running to arrest me. So yeah, if you're doing this quest, or any quest where a brawl is required (or even if you're doing a brawl), take off the Ebony Mail if you're wearing it. [[Special:Contributions/173.238.137.52|173.238.137.52]] 20:42, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

== Bug ==

I had already finished the quest when this bug occurred. I killed a somebody in Markath on a whim(they were carrying things I couldn't pickpocket lol), and now the dialogue from the quest occurs. If I say, "I submit, take me to jail", then the guards will automatically repeat the dialogue. Any fixes? (PS3)

== Another option available: Pay Bounty ==

If you have the coin for it, you also have the option to pay the bounty, not go to jail, get the loot from Eltrys, but not get to watch the rebellion in the end. To do this, when the guard gives you the option to resist or go to jail, tab out of the discussion (on the PC). Then speak to the guard again. You now have the option to pay the bounty (1000) if you have it. If you do, the quest is done. You can then loot Eltrys.

== Straight to the end ==

In my case I entered in Markarth for the first time, watched the killing, and then went to roam around the city, got to the shrine of Talon, and immediately the go to jail or resist dialogue came up, effectively ending the quest, before I even knew I had it.. And no "No One Escapes Cidhna Mine" quest for me :(

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