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 Post subject: Hand-to-hand opponents terrify me
PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:48 am 
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Somehow losing all of my fatigue at low levels is incredibly more devastating than facing an opponent who 'only' does damage to my health, but leaves my precious fatigue untouched so I can actually connect my swings.
Granted I've just started a brand new level 1 character who is not focused heavily on any melee weapon skill, but Foryn Gilnith is somehow beating me senseless every single time I load and try to confront him about the murdered tax collector in Seyda Neen. I got so sick of being staggered and having my fatigue drained to the point where I could not connect even one swing unless I was very, very lucky, but the guy is level 5 so nothing I have at level 1 can possibly one-shot him, and he ends up actually winning.
Then I did the most incredible thing. I cheated by console command spawning a chitin dagger into his inventory so he would use that in our fight. I won! Somehow, impossibly, he became less lethal while wielding a lethal weapon.
Has the same thing happened to anyone else? I genuinely dread facing literally any opponent who does not have a weapon to equip, until I am at least around level 10. Somehow I can never get my own hand-to-hand skill to be effective unless I do an embarrassing amount of practicing to get it up to at least level 30-40 first. Even then it is the slowest possible way to kill anything in the game, so I never bother outside of the one or two quests in the entire game that calls for an unarmed fight and actually has scripts to make the NPCs in question surrender after they've been smacked around for a bit.
For now, I live in terror of the opponent without a weapon.
Just needed to vent a bit before getting back to save scumming against a guy that should be an easy encounter (I loaded after winning by cheating).

Edit: This time I actually won the fight by casting Santuary (10) and Chameleon (10) on myself so he couldn't shred my fatigue, but actually suffered terrible accuracy. Yay for magicka based solutions.


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 Post subject: Re: Hand-to-hand opponents terrify me
PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:17 am 
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He can be a tough opponent to beat if you're a low-level character, but I find that it's easier to beat him if you fight him with hand-to-hand. Also, stay near the door so you can leave and heal a bit, because when you reenter his hut he'll still be at the same level of health he was when you left, making it easier to wear him down.

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 Post subject: Re: Hand-to-hand opponents terrify me
PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:16 pm 
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just buy a Drathis Winter Guest scroll from Arille and use it on Foryn. Super easy win.


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 Post subject: Re: Hand-to-hand opponents terrify me
PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:39 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Hand-to-hand opponents terrify me
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 Post subject: Re: Hand-to-hand opponents terrify me
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Doesn't increasing strength also increasing the rate of weapons wearing down?

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 Post subject: Re: Hand-to-hand opponents terrify me
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I'm doing a different order for Attributes. First a description:
Male Breton Apprentice - Strength Endurance Magic - Major: Spear, Security, Sneak, Speech, Mercantile Minor: Axe, Block, Blunt, Hand, Medium
To explain: Spear and Medium Armor are my "Leveling" skills and I try to avoid leveling with the others until Endurance 100 . Spear 30 made short work of Mr. Gilnith and Medium 15 for the Legion Cuirass. With a Spear drawn and a shield equipped you will not raise Block. It's a benefit having Security, Sneak, Speech and Mercantile begin at a higher level yet all 15's and 30's allow for maximum level. My Breton Apprentice needs 150% magic resistance to equip the Boots of Blinding Speed so the Resist Magica spell from Arrille's Tradehouse allows a custom resist magic spell of 1 - 100 for 2sec on self .
The first level up was Endurance & Speed (always +1 Luck) but it was Endurance & Intelligence after that because ....... well ........ Alchemy.
I'm saving Agility for last so I have a easier time leveling Armor. Drarayne Thelas's cave rats are my personal trainers.


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 Post subject: Re: Hand-to-hand opponents terrify me
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 Post subject: Re: Hand-to-hand opponents terrify me
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I'm one of those masochists who prefers leveling up my skills by myself rather than paying trainers! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Hand-to-hand opponents terrify me
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 Post subject: Re: Hand-to-hand opponents terrify me
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Morrowind was all I played in '04 ~ '06 until Oblivion was released. I had a level 36 character but didn't know about UESP or efficient leveling. I wanted to see how my Oblivion character worked in Morrowind so I made it a "exercise in leveling". All attributes except Luck were 100 at Level 45 but my Journal was hardly touched.


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 Post subject: Re: Hand-to-hand opponents terrify me
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 3:27 pm 
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Just that it's not my intention to use this forum to promote my video series. It's a forum that teaches me things.
The thing I need to know now is how to make the Balmora silt strider operator re-appear. Help ?


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 Post subject: Re: Hand-to-hand opponents terrify me
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Thanx dude ! Any good loot at Assarnotahat ?


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