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And if Mankar Camoran of the Oblivion Crisis is Camoran Usurper's son, then he missed Tiber's death by over 200 years. If anything that supports the view he's a different bloke. (unless you were actually agreeing with me)

You know how you say you say something when really you wrote something on a forum like this? It's like that.

Tiber's death in 3E 38 is a known fact, as is Camoran Usurper's doings in 3E 267 when his son Mankar Camoran was born. We know a Mankar Camoran caused the Oblivion Crisis. The question is whether they're the same Mankar Camoran, which if Tar-Meena is correct, they can't be. The issue in that case is whether Tar-Meena is believable.

Being born in 3E 267 would make him about 170 years old during the Oblivion Crisis, which I think we've established is no age for an elf?

400 years still isn't too abnormal for an elf, especially not a wizardy one like Mankar Camoran...

I don't think you guys are getting the actual problem here. We are arguing that Mankar is too young, not too old.

Yeah. I don't get it. You seem kinda down on Tar-Meena. She's a useful source of knowledge in several quests in TES IV. I wouldn't dismiss her insights.

As far as him being too young, perhaps it was just an oversight? From what I understand, the writers tend to be pretty good with the timeline, but apparently uesp itself is organized far better, and is often a reference. Maybe someone made a typo that was overlooked, or some other small mistake?

I would guess that Tar-Meena was a pretty good source - she might have said it in her own "offhand" way, but someone could explain to you the basics of cloning, the economy, or evolution offhandedly. Seeing as she is one of the best scholars and is useful in multiple quests, and is far from being some random NPC.

Based on my observations on the way people in the elder scrolls universe, the average age for a non-mage dunmer is approximately 200 years. Imperials Usually live to be around 100, Khajiit and Argonians age elude me. Nords and Bretons i assume 75-100 years, Dwemer with Mechanical augmentation 300 (which is conjecture because there is no known source for dwemer life span), Altmer and non tainted falmer 500 or so. Telvani masters usually can live forever, unless they are assassinated or poisoned, or they mess up a spell. Bosmer live about 150 years, Hist trees can live as long as they are maintained properly <hail Sithis>

I find it really interesting that this thread is commonly estimating Bosmer lifespans considerably shorter than Altmer and Dunmer - is there something in-game that suggests that?

I think it has to do with them taking "mannish wives"

And that they don't use magic to anywhere near the altmer or dunmer, and just using it is enough to extend ones life, even before you look at life extension magic, so its safe to knock a bit off for that.

Truth is, we have nothing to go on with them apart from educated guesses.

Unless they do the wild hunt thing, then i guess time doesn't really apply to them. But at that point I don't know if you can even refer to them as bosmer

Okay, I understand about the elves and all, but... how could the redguard gaiden shinji lived in the first era and more??? since owyn, from the bloodworks, says he'd known him?!
I'm sorry to resuscitate this post, lol...
peace.